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PostSubject: Cracked trap   Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:03 am

Hi all!

A little about me quickly........my name is Nicky, I have 1 tank now, full of fish and 2 snails Smile ! And as the username suggests I also have 5 ferrets Laughing !

I did have 6 apple snails, unfortunately 2 died in my old tank, and then when I moved the remaining 4 over to the bigger tank (which had been set up for 2years) 2 more died Crying or Very sad ! But that was about 5 weeks ago now, and my remaining 2 seem to be doing fine!

Anyway, beginning of last week I noticed 1 of my snails wasn't moving around much, so I picked him out and noticed his (or her!) trap is cracked right across affraid ! I have no idea how this has happened! Anyway, I left him to see how he got on, but he just seemed to stay where he was (closed up with the trap closed as best he could)! So a few days later I got him out again to try and tempt a bit of cucumber infront of his mouth.......he took a little bit (I was there for ages before he took it!!!!!) so I thought that was promising! I noticed his body has come away from the cracked trap! I could (not that I'm going to!) pull the cracked bit off as it's only attached by a small bit! I'll try get a picture of the trap for you to better understand!

But anyway, one end of the cracked bit was tucked inside the bit still there, so I figured it was rubbing him and causing pain, so I flicked it to the outside, and since then he's been moving around again as normal!

So after all that..........my question is, will he be ok without the majority of his trap?? I don't think I have fish that try to eat him (but you never know, it's not like I watch them 24/7)!
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PostSubject: Re: Cracked trap   Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:20 pm

Do you have any photos of the trap? By trap I also assume you mean operculum.

Chances are the snail should be able to regrow some of it back, at least to provide it with some defence from predators (in its mind). It wont look the same as normal, but hey, the snail wont care.
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PostSubject: Re: Cracked trap   Tue Jan 20, 2009 2:02 pm

I'm not sure about the cracking - maybe he fell onto something? they seem to be able to do a fair amount of damage sometimes despite falling through water.
I have a snail who's shell was perfectly healthy and was very active, but her trap withered away to nothing. it softened, folded over and seemed to shrink, and now is barely visible. It never bothered her to lose her trap, since there are no biting fish or nasty things to defend against. From my limited research into this, it seems they can live perfectly happily without a trap just so long as they aren't attacked or allowed to dry up. He wont be able to conserve moisture though so you just have to be extra careful when taking him out of the tank for any reason that he doesn't get dry. And if he gets sick, best to move him to his own little tank possibly so the fish don't eat him while he's helpless.
Good luck!

p.s. how the hell do you hand feed a snail?!
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PostSubject: Re: Cracked trap   Tue Jan 20, 2009 2:18 pm

Starcrazy wrote:
I'm not sure about the cracking - maybe he fell onto something? they seem to be able to do a fair amount of damage sometimes despite falling through water.
I have a snail who's shell was perfectly healthy and was very active, but her trap withered away to nothing. it softened, folded over and seemed to shrink, and now is barely visible. It never bothered her to lose her trap, since there are no biting fish or nasty things to defend against. From my limited research into this, it seems they can live perfectly happily without a trap just so long as they aren't attacked or allowed to dry up. He wont be able to conserve moisture though so you just have to be extra careful when taking him out of the tank for any reason that he doesn't get dry. And if he gets sick, best to move him to his own little tank possibly so the fish don't eat him while he's helpless.
Good luck!

p.s. how the hell do you hand feed a snail?!

The operculum may have degraded over time due to acidic conditions in the water. They are usually fine with out them.
As for hand feeding snails, its easy! Pick them up onto your hand, and stick some food next to their shell. They soon come out and start feeding on your hand. They get use to it eventually and wont retrete back into their shell when you pick them up.
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PostSubject: Re: Cracked trap   Tue Jan 20, 2009 2:30 pm

Hi guys, thanks for your replies! Unfortunately I think he's dead! I checked on him when I got home and his trap had come off where it was cracked, and he'd sunk right down into his shell, when I touched his flesh he didn't move! I'm gutted! I'm gonna have to keep a close eye on my last one now!

As for hand feeding them, yeah as Severum Boy said, just take them out onto your hand and put the food next to them! I often hold it in the tank next to them too and they slowly move onto it!
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PostSubject: Re: Cracked trap   Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:52 pm

so sorry about the little guy : ( maybe it was just too much stress for him or something. hope the other one hangs in okay.
I will try feeding mine in my hand next time they get hungry, I used to love doing that with my land snails so thanks for the tip!
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PostSubject: Re: Cracked trap   Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:15 am

Is it possiable that a tankmate caused the crack?
What are they kept with?
Loaches and cichlids (in general) like to havea pop at snails, as do puffers, so any of these presant and you have a problem.
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